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RFC 4409, "Message Submission for Mail", April 2006

Note: This RFC has been obsoleted by RFC 6409

Source of RFC: IETF - NON WORKING GROUP
Area Assignment: app

Errata ID: 1078
Status: Verified
Type: Editorial
Publication Format(s) : TEXT

Reported By: Stephane Bortzmeyer
Date Reported: 2006-06-26
Verifier Name: Alexey Melnikov
Date Verified: 2009-09-06

Section 7 says:

NO-SOLICITING  Notification of no soliciting MAY       [Msg-Track]

It should say:

NO-SOLICITING  Notification of no soliciting MAY       [No-soliciting]

And a new reference in Section 13:

   [No-soliciting] C. Malamud, "A No Soliciting Simple Mail Transfer
                   Protocol (SMTP) Service Extension", RFC 3865,
                   September 2004.

Notes:

Section 13 says:

[Msg-Track] Allman, E. and T. Hansen, "SMTP Service Extension
for Message Tracking", RFC 3885, September 2004.

Which is not correct for NO-SOLICITING, which is defined in RFC 3865

Status: Held for Document Update (2)

RFC 4409, "Message Submission for Mail", April 2006

Note: This RFC has been obsoleted by RFC 6409

Source of RFC: IETF - NON WORKING GROUP
Area Assignment: app

Errata ID: 2393
Status: Held for Document Update
Type: Editorial
Publication Format(s) : TEXT

Reported By: Alfred Hoenes
Date Reported: 2006-05-16
Held for Document Update by: Peter Saint-Andre
Date Held: 2010-07-24

Section 7 says:

The list of SMTP extensions provided on page 10 of RFC 4409
unfortunately is incomplete.  As far as I can see, the following
RFCs with SMTP extensions predate the publication of RFC 4409:

  o  RFC 2645  -- ATRN
  o  RFC 2852  -- DELIVERBY
  o  RFC 3865 (+ RFC 4095)  -- NO-SOLICITING
  o  RFC 4141  -- CONPERM, CONNEG
[ o  RFC 4405 ]

Notes:

Quickly browsing these RFCs, I found that only RFC 4405 has
followed the specification in Section 7 of RFC 2476 (literally
carried over to RFC 4409):

Future SMTP extensions SHOULD explicitly specify if they are valid on
the Submission port.

and contains a definitive statement to this end.
RFC 4405 therefore arguably might be excluded from the list.

It would have been useful to have a complete list, with the
proper applicability keywords for the above SMTP extensions.

Errata ID: 98
Status: Held for Document Update
Type: Editorial
Publication Format(s) : TEXT

Reported By: Alfred Hoenes
Date Reported: 2006-05-16
Held for Document Update by: Peter Saint-Andre
Date Held: 2010-07-24

 

Issues with References:

a) Section 12 of RFC 4409 contains the entry:

   [ESMTP]           Klensin, J., Freed, N., Rose, M., Stefferud, E.,
                     and D. Crocker, "SMTP Service Extensions", STD 10,
                     RFC 1869, November 1995.

   `STD 10` in fact should be `(ex) STD 10` according to rfcxx00.txt .
   The material from RFC 1869 has been incorporated into RFC 2821,
   and RFC 1869 has been reclassified to Historic.

   Therefore, this reference should not have been listed as a
   Normative Reference.  The Ref. to RFC 2821 in fact catches all.


   Section 12 of RFC 4409, under [SMTP-MTA] also contains the entry:

                     Partridge, C., "Mail routing and the domain
                     system", STD 10, RFC 974, January 1986.

   `STD 10` in fact should better have been `(ex) STD 14` --
   rfcxx00.txt says: "Now Historic."                  ^^

   The non-obsolete material from RFC 974 has been incorporated
   into RFC 2821 and RFC 974 has been reclassified as Historic.

   Therefore, this reference should not have been listed as a
   Normative Reference.  The Ref. to RFC 2821 in fact catches all.


   Finally, the subsequent entry,

                     Braden, R., "Requirements for Internet Hosts -
                     Application and Support", STD 3, RFC 1123, October
                     1989.

   also is not needed any more, because the SMTP related material
   in RFC 1123 has been revised and incorporated into RFC 2821
   as well.  The Ref. to RFC 2821 in fact catches all.


b) Section 13 of RFC 4409, under [MESSAGE-FORMAT] contains the entry:

                     Braden, R., "Requirements for Internet Hosts -
                     Application and Support", STD 3, RFC 1123, October
                     1989.

   Similarly to the last item above, the IMF related material from
   RFC 1233 has been revised and incorporated into RFC 2822; thus
   this Ref. is not really needed any more.
   The Ref. to RFC 2822 in fact catches all.


c) Section 13 of RFC 4409 contains the entry:

   [IPSEC]           Kent, S. and R. Atkinson, "Security Architecture
                     for the Internet Protocol", RFC 2401, November
                     1998.

   This Ref. was already outdated at the time of publication of
   RFC 4409; it should point to the current IPSEC Architecture
   document, RFC 4301 !

   BTW:
   This apparently is a `viral` legacy issue -- RFC 2476 also
   contained an outdated Ref., to the predecessor of RFC 2401 !

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