[rfc-i] Where was the discussion?

Brian E Carpenter brian.e.carpenter at gmail.com
Tue Jan 21 17:45:03 PST 2020


P.S. The black&white decision was in https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6949#section-3.2 (May 2013). Since that was formally an IAB document, I won't comment on the consensus process but there certainly was one.

Regards
   Brian Carpenter

On 22-Jan-20 14:39, Brian E Carpenter wrote:
>> That is the problem with non-WG drafts
> 
> Stadards wonk comment: The RFC format discussion was not an IETF discussion. This isn't an IETF mailing list. As far as I recall, the format discussions took place right here. I must admit that at the time I didn't take much notice of the SVG part of the discussion, but even so I have archived messages from this list as far back as September 2012 referring to SVG.
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> draft-brownlee-svg-rfc was discussed on this list starting February 2014.
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> As always, it's in order to disagree with the outcome, but it was emphatically *NOT* a secret discussion.
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> Regards
>    Brian Carpenter
> 
> On 22-Jan-20 07:26, Doug Royer wrote:
>> On 1/20/20 11:01 PM, Phillip Hallam-Baker wrote:
>>> I have read all posts on the RFC-I list that include the string 'SVG'. I find that almost no mention whatsoever was made of SVG-Tiny until it appeared in the drafts. There is barely any mention of an SVG profile before it is asserted that the decision to use a profile of SVG is immutable in 2014. I therefore reject the suggestion that this was sufficiently discussed at the time.
>>>
>>> If people want to claim that something was discussed and decided, I am going to be asking for a link to the post where that happened.
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>> I also agree. I ran across this topic because someone Cc'd the topic on a WG years ago. At the time I said that it needed to be discussed in a more open forum. It never was.
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>> There seems to be some channel of RFC's that make it, and I never seen the discussion. Mostly I do not care. In this case I added myself to that list when I found it. The feedback was limited. And I could not find the discussion history.
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>> That is the problem with non-WG drafts. Assuming you can find the mailing list (if any), often no history is preserved.
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