[rfc-i] RSOC name

Sarah Banks sbanks at encrypted.net
Mon Aug 19 18:55:24 PDT 2019

Nothing has gone out, no schedule given, but the RSOC has been listening to all the feedback, the mic session at plenary, emails afterwards, and we're drafting our proposal on how to proceed. Let me be clear - there is no precedent for this, the RSOC is NOT saying this is how it will go, only providing our feedback and suggestion, based on both the feedback from the community as a whole, and our experience on the RSOC. We plan to have that in roughly the next week. I look forward to your feedback :)


> On Aug 19, 2019, at 7:38 PM, Jim Schaad <ietf at augustcellars.com> wrote:
> That is where I was planning to go next.  I wasn't sure if I had missed
> something because I am not on the ietf mailing list or not, so I just did a
> search to try and find what the state of the process is.  It appears that
> the comment period on the RFP has closed, do we have any further schedule on
> how the process is planned to roll out?
> Jim
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ole Jacobsen <olejacobsen at me.com> 
> Sent: Monday, August 19, 2019 3:00 PM
> To: Sarah Banks <sbanks at encrypted.net>
> Cc: Jim Schaad <ietf at augustcellars.com>; rfc-interest at rfc-editor.org
> Subject: Re: [rfc-i] RSOC name
> Hi,
> Speaking as someone who was part of the first RSOC and the committee that
> found Heather, I am not particularly surprised that there were not more
> bidders the second time around, or the first time for that matter. The RSE
> is quite a specialized job, we are IMO not looking for a generic "editor" or
> "someone with copy-editing experience" or "someone who has published an RFC"
> in spite of such claims on various lists. I continue to be confused by the
> notion that an early rebid would somehow improve this situation, but that
> debate has already happened, so I am sure our efforts should be focused
> instead on finding a new RSE and/or an interim one as soon as possible.
> Ole
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> On Mon, 19 Aug 2019, Sarah Banks wrote:
>> Hi Jim,
>> 	Thanks for the clarification. A few things..
>> Joel was a part of the original RSOC that led to the first search  
>> that found Heather. He was a part of the second RSOC that led to  the 
>> rebid of the contract, per RFC6635. I, and Tony, were also a  part of 
>> that second RSOC when the contract went out to bid per  process, and 
>> found Heather. However, when the current RSOC made the  decision to 
>> reup the contract in December but rebid in in 2 years,  Joel was no 
>> longer on the RSOC, and there were only 2 members  remaining from the 
>> previous RSOC when the bid/search went out -  myself and Tony. I hope 
>> that clarifies that, and I apologize for  any confusion. We did not 
>> check in with previous RSOC members; the  feedback was clear. We, as 
>> well as Heather, had raised the issue  that only 1 bidder had bid the 
>> last time (Heather), and that was  concerning. New members of the RSOC 
>> felt that perhaps we could find  new ways to attract more/additional 
>> bidders. I'll point out that  I've said this several times now, that 
>> the RSOC decided to rebid  the contract in e fforts to address the 
>> concern that we'd  previously received only 1 bid.
>> Thanks,
>> Sarah

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