[rfc-i] character sets, Bug in RFC Search page...

Toerless Eckert tte at cs.fau.de
Mon Oct 2 08:46:35 PDT 2017


I just do not know why there seems to be disinterest to have
human readable document format information/disclaimer. Heck, every other
interest group has managed to get considerations & disclaimers into RFCs
(security, IANA, TSV, rfc2119, et. pp).

"This PDF RFC was created to ensure maximum compatibility. It requires
no external data to display (such as fonts), and the formatting
does ot use features newer than PDF 1.7 defined in 2007. If you encounter problems
with this document a viewer/renderer newer than 2012, please call 1-800-RFC-EDIT"



On Mon, Oct 02, 2017 at 02:59:16PM +0000, Leonard Rosenthol wrote:
> According to RFC 7995:
> For RFCs, require PDF/A-3 with conformance level "U".  This
>       captures the archivability and long-term stability of PDF 1.7
>       files, mandatory Unicode mapping (Sections ("Unicode
>       Mapping in Tagged PDF") and 9.10.2 ("Mapping Character Codes to
>       Unicode Values") of [PDF]), and many of the requirement features.
> PDF/A-3 requires that *all* fonts be embedded ??? so this should never be a problem.
> Leonard
> On 10/1/17, 9:28 PM, "rfc-interest on behalf of Martin J. Dürst" <rfc-interest-bounces at rfc-editor.org on behalf of duerst at it.aoyama.ac.jp> wrote:
>     On 2017/09/28 03:04, Toerless Eckert wrote:
>     > On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 05:53:48PM -0000, John Levine wrote:
>     >> Those are buggy PDFs.  A PDF is supposed to contain all the fonts it
>     >> uses beyond a small standard set, but there is a lot of PDF crudware
>     >> that wrongly assumes that whatever fonts it finds on the machine where
>     >> it's running will exist everywhere.
>     > 
>     > I have stopped trying to really understand all those details for the last
>     > two decades, but i fear what you describe sounds like the original intention
>     > of adobe when they thought fonts embedded in PDFs could not be extracted
>     > and (illegally) be reused outside of the PDF. Once that hack happened (2 decades ago ?),
>     > the problem of licensed/payware fonts and their use has AFAIK lead to
>     > less inclusion of fonts into PDF.
>     For us, that should be irrelevant, because the fonts that we are 
>     (planning on) using are open source, and can be embedded without 
>     problems. Also, as far as I understand, the variant that we choose for 
>     the official PDFs actually requires that all fonts used (except for a 
>     very small base set) are included.
>     Regards,   Martin.
>     P.S.: In addition, please note that font embedding usually uses 
>     subsetting, and our documents have very few non-ASCII characters, so the 
>     additional memory needed for font embedding isn't much of a deal.
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