[rfc-i] Use of reference groups in document

Julian Reschke julian.reschke at gmx.de
Mon Apr 25 01:16:38 PDT 2016

On 2016-04-11 14:28, Jim Schaad wrote:
> I am starting to get a pair of drafts ready for updating and I came across
> the following potential problem that should be thought about.
> RFC 5650 and 5651 both have informally defined reference groups done by
> adding a text section to the references that defines some reference groups.

Pointer, please? (I looked at 5650 but couldn't find what you're 
referring to)

> It turns out that the same document appears in multiple groups.  This is
> going to be a generic problem since the IDREFs would be the same if one
> builds the group in the normal manner.  It might be that we need to modify
> the IDREFs when building groups in some cases.

IMHO <referencegroup> was designed with one specific use case in mind: 
<https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7322#section->, and that indeed 
is different from your's.

I think we have several problems in this area:

1) the one you just identified,

2) a general doubt that what the RFC Design Guide requires actually 
makes sense,

3) and also we haven't thought through how these actually get rendered; 
the instructions in 
would just generate an indented reference list, and not produce what RFC 
7322 asks for (note the lack of the link to the RFC Editor info page).

Best regards, Julian

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