[rfc-i] Fwd: Comment on headers-and-boilerplates

Olaf Kolkman olaf at NLnetLabs.nl
Mon Dec 8 03:27:01 PST 2008

[Forwarded with permission]

As for the question below, it was neither oversight nor conscious  
decision, it takes consensus on the list to reach the latter.

I'd like to draw conclusion in about a week from now, silence will be  
interpreted as consent for the proposed edit.


Begin forwarded message:

> From: Jari Arkko <jari.arkko at piuha.net>
> Date: December 4, 2008 7:11:57 PM GMT+01:00
> To: IAB <iab at iab.org>
> Cc: IESG <iesg at ietf.org>
> Subject: Comment on headers-and-boilerplates
> Dear IAB,
> The IESG reviewed RFC 3932bis document in our telechat today. Some  
> of the discussion made us look again at headers-and-boilerplates in  
> detail.
> My assumption had been that for non-IETF documents, the boilerplate  
> text would be saying that the document is (a) not a candidate for an  
> Internet standard and (b) that the document is not a product of the  
> IETF. We used the IRTF template as an example in our discussion. But  
> then later I was surprised to find out that for the independent  
> stream, it only says (a), not (b). We were wondering if this is an  
> oversight or a conscious decision.
> I would like to see both parts there, actually. This was the opinion  
> from everyone on the call as well*.
> If you agree, is there time to change the boilerplates document? I  
> am referring to the last paragraph in Section 3.2. One possible way  
> to change it would be
> OLD:
> It is therefore not a candidate for any level of Internet Standard
> NEW:
> It is therefore not a product of the IETF and not a candidate for
> any level of Internet Standard
> Jari
> *) There were two ADs who had other comments on the 3932bis &  
> boilerplate changes. They may be contacting the IAB as well,  
> individually.

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