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RFC 8713, "IAB, IESG, IETF Trust, and IETF LLC Selection, Confirmation, and Recall Process: Operation of the IETF Nominating and Recall Committees", February 2020

Note: This RFC has been updated by RFC 9389

Source of RFC: iasa2 (gen)

Errata ID: 7092
Status: Held for Document Update
Type: Technical
Publication Format(s) : TEXT, PDF, HTML

Reported By: Rich Salz
Date Reported: 2022-08-16
Held for Document Update by: Lars Eggert
Date Held: 2023-08-11

Section 4.17 says:

If the Chair is unable to contact a voting volunteer, the Chair must
repeat the random selection process in order to replace the unavailable
volunteer.  There should be at least one day between the announcement of
the iteration and the selection process.

It should say:

TBD

Notes:

Historically, it appears that NomCom chairs treat "can't contact" as "ineligible" and just move down the list. This also appears to be IETF consensus.

Was the intent to really announce seed source, wait, pick them, re-run the process? If so, how long to wait for objections? This needs much more clarification. For example, a timeline of how long to take if following RFC 3797.

Errata ID: 7274
Status: Held for Document Update
Type: Technical
Publication Format(s) : TEXT, PDF, HTML

Reported By: Rich Salz
Date Reported: 2022-12-14
Held for Document Update by: Lars Eggert
Date Held: 2023-08-11

Section 5.10 says:

The call for nominees must include a request for comments regarding the
past performance of incumbents, which will be considered during the
deliberations of the NomCom.

The call must request that a nomination include a valid, working email
address, a telephone number, or both for the nominee. The nomination
must include the set of skills or expertise the nominator believes the
nominee has that would be desirable.


It should say:

Delete them.

Notes:

The last two paragraphs in the section have not been followed by any recent committees. A possible reason for this is use of questionnaires, required by all, to contain contact information; and interviews. In other words, "overtaken by events."

Errata ID: 7300
Status: Held for Document Update
Type: Technical
Publication Format(s) : TEXT, PDF, HTML

Reported By: Rich Salz
Date Reported: 2023-01-05
Held for Document Update by: Lars Eggert
Date Held: 2023-08-11

Section 5.15 says:

A nominee may not know they were a candidate. This permits a candidate
to be rejected by a confirming body without the nominee knowing about
the rejection.

It should say:

Delete.

Notes:

We do not have "private" nominees any more. All candidates are posted on the website, comments from the IETF community are solicited multiple times, each cnadidate must have an interview with NomCom and respond to a questionnaire. While there is some interest, scattered, in getting rid of the questionnaire, the concept of "nominee didn't know they were nominated" is clearly outdated.

Errata ID: 7174
Status: Held for Document Update
Type: Editorial
Publication Format(s) : TEXT, PDF, HTML

Reported By: Rich Salz
Date Reported: 2022-10-20
Held for Document Update by: Lars Eggert
Date Held: 2023-08-11

Section 3.7.3 says:

The sitting IAB members review the IESG candidates.

It should say:

The sitting IAB members review the IESG candidates
(including IETF Chair).

Notes:

Sometimes IETF Chair is mentioned and sometimes Gen AD is mentioned;
the clarification avoids confusion.

Errata ID: 7270
Status: Held for Document Update
Type: Editorial
Publication Format(s) : TEXT, PDF, HTML

Reported By: Rich Salz
Date Reported: 2022-12-13
Held for Document Update by: Lars Eggert
Date Held: 2023-08-11

Section 3.7.3 says:

The IETF LLC Director candidate is reviewed as specified in [RFC8711].

It should say:

The IETF LLC Director candidate is reviewed as specified in Section 6.1
of [RFC8711].

Notes:

This document uses "LLC Director" which seems to be outdated; LLC Board Member is more common.

However, in the original text, adding a reference to the specific section is very useful.

Errata ID: 7273
Status: Held for Document Update
Type: Editorial
Publication Format(s) : TEXT, PDF, HTML

Reported By: Rich Salz
Date Reported: 2022-12-14
Held for Document Update by: Lars Eggert
Date Held: 2023-08-11

Section 3.7.3 says:

The IETF LLC Director candidate is reviewed as specified in [RFC8711].

It should say:

The IETF LLC Director candidate is reviewed as specified in
Section 6.1 of [RFC8711].

Notes:

The two documents often use different terms for the same thing. Having an explicit section reference will save the reader time.

Errata ID: 7275
Status: Held for Document Update
Type: Editorial
Publication Format(s) : TEXT, PDF, HTML

Reported By: Rich Salz
Date Reported: 2022-12-14
Held for Document Update by: Lars Eggert
Date Held: 2023-08-11

Section 5.13 says:

A nominee's consent must be written (email is acceptable) and must
include a commitment to provide the resources necessary to fill the open
position and an assurance that the nominee will perform the duties of
the position for which they are being considered in the best interests
of the IETF community.

It should say:

Delete

Notes:

This third paragraph from 5.13 is not appropriate. Recent nomcom's solicit that information during the interview and questionnaire responses.

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