[rfc-i] XML citation library for RFCs (bibxml)

Eliot Lear lear at cisco.com
Sat Jul 18 08:08:28 PDT 2015


And Hi again Tony!

On 7/18/15 5:01 PM, Tony Hansen wrote:
>
> I'm not sure what you're suggesting.
>
> First off, by "non-IETF" files, I am going to assume that you're
> referring ONLY to the "bibxml2" (aka "bibxml-misc") repository and not
> the bibxml4 (w3c), bibxml5 (3gpp) or JSF (xmpp) repositories. These
> latter ones are fed directly from their relevant feeds or hosted
> elsewhere.

Well, the example I had in mind was in fact the plethora of IEEE
standards (we don't seem to have a feed from them).
>
> The RFC Editor (actually, the RFC Production center) does have direct
> write access to the bibxml2 repository. They certainly don't need to
> have their own copy of the bibxml2 repository to do things with it.
>
> But what is that they can do "catch as catch can"?
>
> They cannot be prescient and know a priori what references people will
> want. So people need to let us know when there's an additional
> miscellaneous reference that is needed.
>
> Are you suggesting that they add references after the fact for ones
> that have been used in published RFCs and are not currently present?
> That's not something that they currently do and would be a nice addition.

Yes.  That's precisely what I'm suggesting, only you said it better.

> I would start a separate thread with this as a topic and include
> Heather as a CC (<rse at rfc-editor.org>). It would require additional
> work on their part though, and their cycles are sparse as it is.

Gosh I hope she reads this list ;-)  But ok.

>
> Note: there's been an effort going on in the background for the past
> couple years to get a feed of the IEEE standards that could be turned
> into bibxml files. Unfortunately, we've made little progress on this
> front. IEEE's search tools provide quite a lot of access but, as of 6
> months ago, aren't quite sufficient to the task.

Understand.

Eliot
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