[rfc-i] Host names and ownership of the XML coverter

Paul Kyzivat pkyzivat at alum.mit.edu
Wed May 28 10:38:10 PDT 2014

On 5/28/14 11:38 AM, Paul Hoffman wrote:
> On May 28, 2014, at 8:02 AM, Ted Lemon <Ted.Lemon at nominum.com> wrote:
>> I've never understood why we were using the xml.resource.org domain--it doesn't really make any sense, because "xml" is way too generic.   So I don't think there's any value in continuing to use it.   I think the rfc-editor.org/ietf.org split makes a lot of sense, iff the RSE agrees.


> Let's not rush into this. It reflects a major issue that people that have with the current use of the XML format that rarely is discussed.
> The XML format is used much more often for production of Internet Drafts than it is of RFCs. That is, authors who use XML to produce their drafts use the tool about five times as often as the RFC Editor does to turn the final draft into an RFC.
> Also note that drafts are just drafts: probably only half are RFCs-to-be.
> Given this, the XML conversion tool really should not belong to the RFC Editor, who has different needs for the tool than draft authors. Note that not all drafts are even in the IETF realm: some are from the IRTF, some are for the ISE, and some are "I just wanted to publish this to get people to comment". However, if someone is going to "own" the tool, it should probably be "the IETF" (as a steward for draft writers everywhere), and the RFC Editor either has their own (yuck) or significant input to the tool development for the RFC Editor's needs.
> And, yes, this affects the domain name used. If the domain name is in rfc-editor.org, people will expect tool support there.
> And, yes, "xml2rfc" is a bad name because most of the use of the tool is for writing Internet Drafts, not RFCs.
> Thus: xml.ietf.org or xmltool.ietf.org seem most appropriate.

I don't see what's wrong with tools.ietf.org for the conversion tool. 
But if not, then how about putting it in draft-tools.ietf.org?

Some possible names as alternatives to xml2rfc for the converter:

xml2draft (yuck)

draftc (as in draft compiler or draft converter)

rfcc (rfc converter. Could be alias for draftc, or might have different 
options enabled)


I kind of like draftc.


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