[rfc-i] v3: <tindent> feedback

Julian Reschke julian.reschke at gmx.de
Sun Apr 13 09:20:59 PDT 2014


On 2014-04-13 17:41, Paul Hoffman wrote:
> On Apr 13, 2014, at 5:22 AM, Julian Reschke <julian.reschke at gmx.de> wrote:
>
>>
>> <http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-hoffman-xml2rfc-04#section-2.50>:
>>
>>> 2.50. <tindent>
>>>
>>>
>>>     Contains a paragraph of text.  The paragraph is displayed with the
>>>     left and right paragraph margins indented from the page margins.
>>
>> Both sides? I don't think that matches the use cases where people currently abuse lists.
>
> Right. It matches what you see in real-world publishing for items like notes. v2 doesn't give the author a chance to abuse something that indents on both sides.

Well, it's certainly not why is done today, so I continue to be surprised.

>> The content model needs to contain block-level elements (the same is true for <blockquote>, btw).
>
> How would this make sense from a formatting perspective? In specific, what would expect
>
> <tindent>
> Here is a sentence.
> <t>
> Here is another sentence.
> </t>
> Here is a third sentence.
> </tindent>
>
> to render as?

It would be invalid.

> Given that <tindent> and <blockquote> mess with the margins, and margins are extremely important visual cues, it seems safer to not let them enclose block-level items whose indentation also give cues.

Such as? Example?

>> Maybe it's worth looking at <http://www.w3.org/TR/html-markup/aside.html>.
>
> Seen. Can you say what part of that description you think is relevant here? It could be that "<tindent> should be like an aside", or something else.

I believe we should have the equivalent of <aside>, with the same type 
of content model, and even the same name.

Best regards, Julian




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