[rfc-i] Potential RFC format approach: XML

Phillip Hallam-Baker hallam at gmail.com
Sat Mar 24 19:10:26 PDT 2012

I have yet to find a tool that outputs useful XML that has an outlining mode.

I don't particularly need WYSIWG but I do want something that can hide
the ugly side of XML from me when I am trying to think about something

On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 9:34 PM, Joe Touch <touch at isi.edu> wrote:
> On Mar 24, 2012, at 9:00 PM, "John Levine" <johnl at taugh.com> wrote:
>>>> We can't be that unique in our needs that we can't use commercial tools.
>>> Although I don't fully agree with this, I don't mind having that as a
>>> requirement.  Therefore, our choices are Word or HTML.
>> There are a wide variety of XML editors, you know.  Some are WYSIWYG,
>> some are just emacs-style text editors with a mode to help edit the
>> tags.
>> As a concrete example, a WYSWYG XML editor called xxe has a quite
>> usable freeware version, as well as a fancier paid version, and a
>> Google Code profile for editing xml2rfc.  It formats the text as you
>> write, like Word does.
>> I'm not a fan of WYSIWYG editors, but I find xxe no worse than Word.
> Not even close, and I'm speaking vs using word to write rfcs right now.
> I've tried various XML editors including xxe. I find it easy to do things in wysiwyg- mode that render the XML non-compilable. It's also not possible to cut and paste structural subtrees as in outline mode in word.
> Using xxe was like time travel to the early 1980s as editors go.
> That's what prompted me to update the word template, fwiw.
> Anything less functional and capable than that is a step backwards IMO.
> Joe
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