[rfc-i] I-D Action: draft-iab-rfc-editor-model-v2-04.txt

Juan Carlos Garcia Hoyos garcia.jc at gmail.com
Mon Mar 12 22:22:58 PDT 2012


I present my name to take responsibility for the program RSOC..
Juan Carlos Garcia Hoyos.
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2012/3/12 Joel M. Halpern <jmh at joelhalpern.com>

> In line...
>
>
> On 3/12/2012 10:36 PM, Brian E Carpenter wrote:
>
>> In addition to the members from outside of the IAB appointed to the
>>> RSOC, IAB members may participate as full members of the RSOC. Under
>>> most circumstances, there will be a specific individual IAB member
>>> appointed by the IAB as the program lead, who will be a full member
>>> of the RSOC. This member's role is distinct from any RSOC internal
>>> organizational roles, such as the RSOC choosing to appoint a chair
>>> from among its members.
>>>
>>
>> That's very elliptical. Why not just say "The RSOC will appoint a chair
>> from among its members."
>>
>
> It is elliptical because the IAB does not choose to mandate in an RFC
> whether the RSOC chooses to / needs to have a chair.  (Not all IAB Programs
> have chairs.)
>
>
>
>>  Other IAB members may choose to be full
>>> members of the RSOC, with the consent of the IAB. This consent is
>>> primarily concerned with avoiding overpopulating the RSOC and
>>> providing it with relatively stable membership, which will work best
>>> if it is not too large a committee.
>>>
>>
>> This is very waffly. The IAB should, IMHO, make a conscious effort
>> to keep out of RSOC details. Allowing some undefined number of IAB
>> members to get immersed in the details seems to be exactly the wrong
>> thing to do. In fact, I thought the RSOC was invented to help the
>> IAB avoid micro-management. Frankly, if we have people in the IAB
>> whose ambition is to deal with this rather than with technology,
>> we need to have a strong word with NomCom.
>>
>
> The RSOC is an IAB program.  The IAB expectation is that some number of
> IAB members will be active participants in each and every IAB Program. The
> point of the RSOC is the pair of avoiding burdening the entire IAB with
> managing the RSE, and bringing in additional, stable, expertise beyond the
> IAB membership.  The goal is NOT to exclude the IAB.  (Note that two IAB
> members are currently serving on the RSOC, and another is observing teh
> RSOC list.)
> It is left waffly because, as an IAB program and an IAB responsibility,
> the IAB needs to retain flexibility with regard to its direct participation
> in the RSOC, rather than trying to write prescriptive rules about it.
>
> And to turn your comment on IAB / Nomcom around, if the Nocmom is not
> appointing people to the IAB who are prepared to deal with the full range
> of IAB responsibilities, then we have a serious problem.
>
>
>
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