[rfc-i] I-D Action:draft-iab-rfc-editor-model-v2-00.txt

Olaf Kolkman olaf at NLnetLabs.nl
Mon Mar 21 03:57:40 PDT 2011

On Mar 20, 2011, at 11:29 PM, Brian E Carpenter wrote:

>>     In time the RSE is expected to develop and refine a vision on
>>         the technical specification series, as it continues to evolve
>>         beyond the historical 'by engineers for engineers' emphasis;
>>         and
>>         its publication-technical environment: slowly changing in terms
>>         of publication and archiving techniques; the communities that
>>         produce and depend on the RFC Series.  All of those communities
>>         have been slowly changing to include significant multi-lingual
>>         non-native-English populations.Some of them also have a primary
>>         focus on the constraints and consequences of network
>>         engineering, rather than a primary interest in the engineering
>>         issues themselves.
> This is waffle. I suggest reducing it to a few words that actually
> convey meaning. Also, why would the series evolve beyond 'by engineers
> for engineers'? This seems like a very good mantra. I don't think we have
> consensus on changing this, do we?

To give a bit of background:

The words 'by/for engineers' came out of an IAB discussion (where there was quite a difference of opinion) where we discussed what the strategic responsibilities of the RSE should be.

The point that the current text is trying to convey is that the mission of the RSE is a broad one and that he or she must develop a vision that may question the current 'givens' (or mantras).  The outcome of that exercise may well be that the emphasis needs to remain 'by engineers for engineers' but the point is that these are the questions that an RSE should spend energy on as they are of a strategic nature.

The change of the RFC producing and consuming environment to become more and more non-native-English is also an example of a strategic topic that needs thought.

It is not the intention that these examples are exclusive, they are intended as indicative.



Olaf M. Kolkman                        NLnet Labs
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