[rfc-i] RFC citations committee I-D issued

Brian E Carpenter brian.e.carpenter at gmail.com
Fri Feb 11 11:24:00 PST 2011


Scott,

You're correct, but our topic here is really: given that
someone decides to cite an I-D, what should the citation
look like?

I just looked at RFC 1380... an interesting example.
Some of the references are very interesting historically.
How can I find them?

Regards
   Brian

On 2011-02-12 08:16, Scott O. Bradner wrote:
> There is a basic question that I've not seen asked in this discussion:
> what is the reason that someone wants to cite an ID in an RFC?
> 
> if the reason is to explore the development of a technology (version 2
> said this but by version 6 it had changed to ...), then citing the
> specific ID by name (including version number) make a lot of sense
> because the reference is to the document in which a particular
> technology refinement was introduced
> 
> if the reason is to say that a particular technical concept was
> introduced on a particular date, (a variant on the above) then
> citing the specific ID by name make a lot of sense because the
> reference is to the document in which the technology was introduced
> 
> if the reason is to discuss the technology in an abandoned ID (for
> example an ID series that was abandoned by a working group and will
> never be published as a RFC) then citing the specific ID by name make a
> lot of sense to ensure that the reader gets the same version the RFC is
> discussing
> 
> but if the purpose is reference a technology under development, for
> example as being relevant to your RFC, then citing the specific ID by
> name makes no sense since the reference will likely be out of date by
> the time the RFC ever gets published
> 
> I suggest that the question of allowing ID filenames in RFCs is not a
> yes/no question - some logic should be applied as to why the document is
> being cited
> 
> this is entirely unrelated to the question of whether the IETF should
> stop pretending that IDs evaporate at some arbitrary point in time or if
> the tools website is stable or not
> 
> Scott
> 
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