[rfc-i] Developing consensus, episode 2: Expected hours of work for the RSE

Bob Hinden bob.hinden at gmail.com
Fri Feb 4 15:27:55 PST 2011


Brian,

On Feb 4, 2011, at 2:48 PM, Brian E Carpenter wrote:

> My impression is that almost everyone who's looked closely at the job
> (as in "Should I apply for it?") has come up with the view that it is
> well above half-time initially, and probably above half-time in
> a steady state.

That is similar to my thinking.  

Bob


> 
> And I am not extrapolating from my own state of mind, since I've
> never contemplated applying for it ;-)
> 
> Regards
>   Brian
> 
> On 2011-02-05 09:43, Bob Braden wrote:
>> Sorry I have been too busy to pay careful attention to this discussion,
>> but you are evidently talking about a lighter-weight RSE than I had
>> envisioned from earlier discussions and RFCs. Your RSE is essentially a
>> bureaucrat, attending meetings, reading (but not responding to mailing
>> lists, and writing reports.  I thought there was more to the job than that.
>> Some detailed comments below.
>> 
>> Bob Braden
>> 
>> 
>> On 2/3/2011 10:20 AM, Paul Hoffman wrote:
>>> 
>>> This topic is still pretty vital to being part of the description, so
>>> I'll toss in my own proposal, and am interested to hear different
>>> ones. I structured these around the same organization that Glenn did
>>> earlier.
>>> 
>>> Meetings:
>>>    RFC Editor team weekly meetings, plus prep: 8 hr/month
>>>    IAB bi-monthly meetings, plus prep: 5 hr/month
>>>    IETF meetings: 24 day/year, or 16 hr/month
>>> Community:
>>>    Expected major projects, each taking 60 hours of dedicated time,
>>>        two per year: 120 hr/year, or 10 hr/month
>>>    Passive following of rfc-interest, ietf-general: 5 hr/month
>> 
>> You're kidding, right? How about an hour a day, or 20 days per month,
>> for the last item?
>> 
>>>    Lightweight following of interactions between authors
>>>        and the Production Center: 8 hr/month
>> 
>> Probably low, in my experience.
>> 
>> I suspect this is low.
>>> Reporting:
>>>    Monthly summary of Production Center numbers: 4 hr/month
>>>    Annual summary review of Production Center and Publisher:
>>>        12 hr/year, or 1 hr/month
>>> Contract reviews:
>>>    Prepare SOW, help prepare RFP, help interview candidates:
>>>        48 hours every 2 years, or 2 hr/month
>>> 
>> Again, you are way off. SOW, RFP, interviewing sounds like 2 weeks (80
>> hours)
>> every two years.
>>> Total: ~59 hr/month, or ~15 hr/week
>>> 
>>> There will certainly need to be extra learning time in the first six
>>> months, as well as additional time for smaller spontaneous projects.
>>> Adding a generous 33% more hours, for a total of 20 hr/week, should
>>> be plenty for both the short term (learning but few spontaneous
>>> projects) and the long term.
>>> 
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