[rfc-i] Data point [Re: Fwd:I-D ACTION:draft-hoffman-utf8-rfcs-03.txt]

Joe Touch touch at ISI.EDU
Tue Oct 7 12:20:40 PDT 2008


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Julian Reschke wrote:
> Joe Touch wrote:
>> Julian Reschke wrote:
>> ...
>>>>     - UTF-8
>>>>     - page breaks
>>>>     - line breaks
>>> Two of these are requirements that have nothing to to with what we
>>> discuss. 
>>
>> UTF-8 that doesn't preserve page breaks and line breaks isn't a step
>> forward. IMO, they're all required.
> 
> I don't think anybody was proposing a UTF-8 based format that breaks
> these requirements. That the current draft forbids form feeds was an
> oversight (I think).

I'm assuming that draft-hoffman allows these characters. I'm NOT
claiming we can't "allow" all three; I'm claiming I don't have a print
path that supports all three on Vista.

>>> If you can't make those work with ASCII, you won't be able to
>>> do it with UTF-8 either.
>>
>> They all work with ASCII, but I can't make them work with UTF-8. That is
>> the problem...
> 
> I already suggested that using a BOM will fix most issues on Windows
> once the HTTP resource is saved to the local file system.
> 
> BR, Julian

I tried that - the BOM is there. Now open the file with a Windows app
and view it and try to print it - show me any app that preserves all
three properties above. Wordpad (which works for ASCII, FF, LF) isn't it.

Joe
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