[rfc-i] Fwd: I-D ACTION:draft-hoffman-utf8-rfcs-03.txt
Tim Bray
tbray at textuality.com
Tue Oct 7 01:31:52 PDT 2008
On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 7:49 PM, Martin Duerst <duerst at it.aoyama.ac.jp> wrote:
> Just a few comments:
I agree with all of Martin's comments, except as noted:
> 2.1: I think there are other places where Non-ASCII makes sense.
> E.g.: Acknowledgment section, in the actual text for document
> titles (or names) quoted there, and so on.
OK, except for "... and so on". Let's keep it circumscribed.
> 2.2:
> Specifications encoded in UTF-8 should not contain the encodings of
> certain Unicode codepoints. The codepoint ranges given in this
> section are inclusive:
> I read the 'inclusive' as "these are okay". Also, "the encodings of"
> looks redundant in this context. What about simply:
> Specifications using UTF-8 must not use the following codepoint
> ranges:
"ranges, given inclusively":
> 2.2: I would add a general sentence saying that there are many other
> kinds of codepoints (e.g. unassigned, control- or formatting-like,
> compatibility,...) that should only used with great care if at all.
> You have something about compatibility characters, but I think wording
> that in a more general fashion is better.
Disagree, stated so generally. Compatibility characters are
well-defined. If you have some specific codepoints or ranges to
exclude, please argue for them specifically.
> 2.3, or somewhere else: I'd like to see a strong recommendation
> against "smart quotes", or otherwise some discussion of them
> (we could propose that "smark quotes" are okay for textual
> quotation, but not for protocol examples when they are supposed
> to represent "'" or '"'). Smart quotes easily get into IETF
> documents, and may be rather difficult to detect automatically.
Why? What's the problem with these? (A similar argument would apply
to hyphens and the various flavors of dashes). -Tim
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